Vyros, Incissar of the Dawnguard

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Retribution Dawnguard Warcaster

The Retribution of Scyrah has no greater champion than Vyros of House Nyarr. The leader of the Dawnguard rides to war astride his powerful warhorse Solarys, his hunting hawk circling overhead. Through her eyes he sees the battlefield unobstructed, allowing Vyros to direct his army rapidly to close gaps in the line or capture critical ground, ensuring he is never outmaneuvered in battle.

Basic Info[edit]

Vyros, Incissar of the Dawnguard
Vyros2
SPD 8
MAT 8
RAT 6
DEF 15
ARM 18
FOCUS 6
HP 18
WJP +27
See also How to Read the statblock

Weapons[edit]

  • Extremus Cannon - 10" range, POW 12, gun
    • Damage Type: Magical - This weapon can damage incorporeal models.
    • Reload [1] - This model can spend focus/fury tokens to make up to 1 additional ranged attacks with this weapon during its Combat Action. It can make one additional attack for each focus/fury token spent.
  • Extremus - 2" reach, P+S 14 melee weapon
  • Mount - 0.5" reach, POW 12 mount attack

Abilities[edit]

  • Warcaster - This model comes with a bunch of special rules, most notably being really awesome at everything.
  • Cavalry - All Cavalry come with a stack of standard special rules, most notably Impact Attacks and auto-boosted charge attacks.
  • Bird's Eye - Battlegroup models in control range ignore clouds, forests and intervening models for line of sight.
  • Quick Work - When this model destroys one or more enemies with a melee attack during its Combat Action, immediately afterwards it can make a free basic ranged attack.
  • Reposition [3"] - At the end of an activation in which it did not run or fail a charge, this model can advance up to 3", then its activation ends.
  • Veteran Leader (Dawnguard) - While in this model's command range, other friendly Dawnguard models gain +1 to attack rolls.

Spells[edit]

For one round, friendly Faction models in the caster's control range gain +2 ARM against ranged and magic attacks.
  • Easy Rider - Give Pathfinder to friendly Faction models in the spellcaster's control range.
  • Lock The Target - Average range magic attack, deals low damage and the damaged model cannot run, charge, slam or trample.
  • Synergy - COST 2, UPKEEP
While in the caster's control range, their battlegroup gain a +1 cumulative bonus on melee attack & damage rolls, up to a limit of 3, for each other battlegroup model that hit an enemy in melee this turn while in the caster's control range.
  • Twister - Cost 2, 10" range, 3" AOE, POW 10 attack.
The AOE is also a cloud that remains in play for one round.

Feat : Tide of War[edit]

When one or more friendly Faction models is destroyed or RFP'd by an enemy attack while in Vyros's control range, at any time except while advancing (ie dying to a free strike), immediately afterwards a friendly Faction model in Vyros' control range can advance 3". Tides of War lasts for one round.


Analysis of Vyros, Incissar of the Dawnguard[edit]

Vyros, Incissar of the Dawnguard in a nutshell[edit]

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Maximising his Feat & Spells[edit]

Feat thoughts[edit]

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Spell thoughts[edit]

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Typical Army & Strategy[edit]

Strategy[edit]

  • Light-jack spam
    • Thank you oh great pirates at privateer press for Helios the savior of the Griffin swarm. Yes the swarm is still a thing, but it might not be as efficient as a Sphinx swarm due to the new cap on Synergy. The reason Helios works is because of his nifty little ability to drop one focus to give one to every happy jack in your army that is within 3" of him.
  • Dude spam
    • If you really want you can go solider spam well good news you can! The downside is that Synergy becomes much less useful and your jacks become way more precious and valuable rather than just your kids toys you can break and not feel bad.

Army[edit]

  • Warjacks
    • Griffon - The Griffon brings a combination of long distance, accurate charges and survivability that is hard to beat. Excellent way of building Synergy, with it maxed they are capable of killing squishier heavy beasts in an activation but don't quite match the output of dedicated heavies.
    • Sphinx - The Sphinx brings the punch of a heavy for a low price point (three Griffons is comparable to two Sphinx). They're tough, have a gun to get stuff done when you don't want to commit them, and once you tack on Synergy will break apart even the heaviest of armour.
    • Imperatus - Imperatus is still Vyros' best friend, having the highest damage output and being the most survivable of all the Retribution jacks, excepting the colossals. Watch out for Grievous Wounds denying his healing.
    • Manticore - For a little more then the Sphinx you lose out slightly in melee potential but gain a much better gun. Jack heavy lists traditionally have a weakness to Weapon Master infantry, and the Covering Fire wall helps to mitigate this.
    • Aspis - Vyros is a large based caster, and as a result hard to block line of sight to. The Aspis can save you from the worst guns out there for little investment.
    • Other jacks - Gorgons speed debuffing can help prevent melee engagements. Both the Banshee and Phoenix are good all round jacks, but Vyros does value their additional tools highly. When Helios is released expect it to show up frequently in jack spam lists.
  • Units and Solos
    • Arcanist Mechanik - Three is almost an auto include with Vyros, every ability they bring is useful for a caster who likes his warjacks.
    • Lanyssa Ryssyl - Free charges and charging further are always good to have with a jack heavy list. The other abilities are less commonly used but being able to knock out a key model or remove pathfinder are potentially game winning when they come up.
    • Dawnguard Invictors - High accuracy and damage shooting. Clear out charge lanes, soften up beasts/jacks, hunt support pieces, they are useful in every game and if the worst happens they can always feed the feat.
    • Dawnguard Sentinels - Deceleration helps to deliver them, and having Weapon Masters that accurate is borderline unfair. Expensive and less flexible then Invictors, but their damage output is unrivaled and demands attention, taking fire away from the rest of the list.
    • House Vyre Electromancers - If you are planing on bringing lots of heavies or a colossal the Electromancers become a highly effective clearing unit. By shooting your jacks in the back you can ensure that their Lightning Generator shots will always land, mitigating the low armour but high defence jammers that your jacks can have trouble dealing with efficiently. Don't try this with Griffons, even with Deceleration up their armour is low enough in the back arc you risk causing significant damage.

Drawbacks and Downsides[edit]

  • He's big and likes shouting "look at my horse!".
  • He isn't the best at combat mostly because he'll just get tied up, so unless you have no other choice keep him back and make some pop shots.

Tricks and Tips[edit]

  • To maximise your Quick Work attacks, try to charge into a group of knocked down enemies (so that you're not engaged).
    • Quick Work doesn't trigger on Impact Attacks

Changes from Mk II[edit]

Griffon spam is dead! Long live the Sphinx spam! On a more serious note, Synergy is still a thing, but you are no longer required to dedicate the entire list to maximizing it, allowing for the inclusion of more heavies or other units, resulting in a more varied force. Easy Rider now works properly, while Deflection changing to Deceleration and affecting jacks makes the army quite survivable at range. He benefits immensely from the core rule changes (Power Up and the new focus boosting rules), and while Ride-by Attacks will be missed, Reposition works almost as well most of the time.


Other[edit]

Trivia[edit]

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Theme Forces[edit]

Themes for any-and-all casters (Edit)

Retribution of Scyrah Models[edit]

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Battlegroups
Warcasters Rahn1 - Vyros1 - Vyros2 - Elara2 - Garryth1 - Goreshade4 - Issyria1 - Kaelyssa1 - Ossyan1 - Ravyn1 - Thyron1 - Helynna1
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Warcaster attachments Fane Knight Guardian (Retribution) - Sylys Wyshnalyrr (Retribution) - Madelyn Corbeau (Mercenary)
Other Controllers Elara1 (BGC) - Sentinel Scyir - Artificer
Light warjacks Aspis - Chimera - Gorgon - Griffon
Moros
Heavy warjacks Banshee - Daemon - Hydra - Manticore - Phoenix - Sphinx
Discordia - Hypnos - Hemera - Imperatus
Colossal Hyperion - Helios
 
Units, Solos, & Battle Engines
Units Destors - Invictors - Sentinels - Heavy Rifle Team - Swordsmen - Battle Mages - Electromancers - Halberdiers - Riflemen - Infiltrators - Strike Force - Ryssovass Defenders - Stormfall Archers
Nyss Hunters - Spears of Scyrah
Special: Eiryss3 (CA) - Soulless Escort (WA)
Solos Arcanist Mechanik - Destor Thane - Sentinel Scyir - Ghost Sniper - Artificer - Magister - Houseguard Thane - Lys Healer - Assassin - Priest of Nyssor - Soulless Voidtracer

Aelyth Vyr - Eirrys1 - Eiryss2 - Elara1 - Issyen - Narn - Nayl

Battle Engines Arcantrik Force Generator
 
Theme Forces
Forges of War - Defenders of Ios - Shadows of the Retribution
Retibution of Scyrah - Mercenary/Minion models (Edit)
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Units Lady Aiyana & Master Holt
Solos Dahlia Hallyr & Skarath - Lanyssa Ryssyl, Nyss Sorceress - Madelyn Corbeau, Ordic Courtesan


Rules Clarifications[edit]

Rules Clarification : Magical Damage      (Edit)

  • The "Damage Type: Magical" is not inherited by "secondary" damage from a weapon such as arcs (Electro Leap) or hazards (Scather). (Infernal Ruling)
  • All spells have "Damage Type: Magical" (refer latest errata).
  • If a weapon/spell includes Magic Damage and another kind of elemental damage it can still damage Incorporeal models. They're not affected by the rule "if an attack does multiple types of damage and a model is immune to at least one it is immune to the entire attack.
    The phrase "immune to non-magical damage" should be intrepreted as "immune to damage that doesn't include Damage Type: Magical" (not as "has immunity to Corrosion and Electricity and Cold and etc.")

Rules Clarification : Reload      (Edit)

  • You can use Reload to make additional attacks after a Special Ranged Attack. (Infernal Ruling)
  • If you have (x2) of a weapon with Reload (such as Caine1), the special rule will only be written on the card once. But you can reload both weapons to the max limit. (Infernal Ruling)


Rules Clarification:  : Warcaster      (Edit)
Warning: This is a long one.

 
  • General
    • Your CTRL area is double your current focus statistic, not however many focus points you currently have.
    • Casting spells or using feats is an anytime ability with the added restriction that you can't use them on the same turn you run even before you run.
      • See also the clarifications on Any Time abilities (below).
    • Some warcasters are also Battle Engines and thus follow all the Battle Engine special rules.
      • There is no particular interaction between the Battle Engine rules and the Warcaster rules.
Restrictions on "Any Time" abilities (Edit)
  • "Any Time" abilities can be used at any time during a model/unit's activation, except:
    1. The model with the Any Time ability has had their activation end "prematurely". By this I mean you resolve anything which includes "its activation ends". Examples include:
      • Running, failing a charge, or failing a slam.
      • Abilities that include "then its activation ends" (such as Reposition and Teleport).
    2. You're in the middle of moving. (Note: Impact Attacks count as being in the middle of movement).
    3. You're in the middle of an attack. Note that the attack is not over until you finish step 14 of the attack sequence (Apdx A).
    4. Your opponent interrupted your activation to trigger one of their own abilities, such as Countercharge.
  • In general you can use "Any Time" abilities while you're knocked down or stationary (except Spells and Feats which specify you can't).
  • Units
    • Even if the ability says "any time during the unit's activation", a model in a unit can't use an Any Time ability if they run, fail a charge, or use an ability like Reposition.
    • Because that model's activation has ended (even if the unit's activation is still ongoing) and you can't use abilities on models that are not active.
    • So, for example:
      • You cannot use a minifeat after the Officer runs. (Infernal Ruling)
      • You cannot use a minifeat after anyone in the unit has begun a Reposition move. (Infernal Ruling)
  • Warcaster/Warlock Cavalry ( Edit )
    • Warcasters/Warlocks can't cast spells or use their feat while resolving Impact Attacks. Because Impact Attacks occur during movement - you can use spells or feat before moving, or after moving, but not during movement.
      • Exception: If your Impact target(s) include your charge target, then your movement has ended (refer rulebook, last paragraph of 'Impact Attacks') and thus you're fine to use "any time" abilities before starting the Impact attacks.


Rules Clarification : Warcaster Unit or Warlock Unit     (Edit)
This summary is specific to Warcaster/Warlock units. You may also want to check the Warcasters & Warlocks page for the 'regular' rules clarifications.

  • If you're giving an order, it must be done first, before casting any spells or using your feat.
  • All models in the unit count as part of the battlegroup. So, for instance, Butcher3's argii can be moved via his Energizer spell.
  • Only the warcaster/warlock model can dominate a Steam Roller scenario. They can do that regardless of where the grunts are.
  • The grunt models can contest Steam Roller scenarios, but not control them.
  • Warcaster units can have attachments. They can even attach units (such as the WSC). (Infernal Ruling)
  • Units Buying Attacks (Edit)
    • If you make attacks with model [A], then start making attacks with model [B], you cannot 'go back' and buy more attacks with [A]. Because:
    • A model can only buy additional attacks during its Combat Action.
    • A model in a unit must complete its Combat Action before the next model starts theirs (with some exceptions, like CMA).

Rules Clarification : Unit of Warcasters or Warlocks     (Edit)

  • Even though they're warcasters, if they're out of formation they suffer the normal penalties (can't make attacks, actions, spells, etc).
  • They can't upkeep each other's spells.
  • They can only dominate one SteamRoller scenario element at a time.
  • Each warlock/warcaster can have different upkeeps on them if those upkeeps are "target SELF" or "target model". If you cast an upkeep that is "target model/unit", that is the only upkeep any of them can have.
  • Units Buying Attacks (Edit)
    • If you make attacks with model [A], then start making attacks with model [B], you cannot 'go back' and buy more attacks with [A]. Because:
    • A model can only buy additional attacks during its Combat Action.
    • A model in a unit must complete its Combat Action before the next model starts theirs (with some exceptions, like CMA).
  • The Legion Twins
    • Rhyas cannot dominate a zone while out of formation.
    • Rhyas can use the feat while out of formation.
  • Haley3
    • Only Haley Prime is an 'actual' warcaster model, and as such she is the only one that can dominate a scenario element.
    • The echoes can Control/Contest scenarios like a normal unit.
    • Haley Prime can dominate an element even if the echoes are out of formation.

Rules Clarification:  : Cavalry      (Edit)
Warning: This is a long one.

Mount Weapon

  • Mount Weapons are melee weapons. (Infernal Ruling) This means:
    • Mount Attacks can benefit from any buffs that affect "melee weapons" (such as Acidic Touch and Elasticity) or "melee attacks" (such as Battle Lust).
    • Mount Weapons can be used to make free strikes.
    • If the model doesn't have any regular melee weapon (such as the Gun Carriage) then it does have a melee range, can engage enemy models, and can make free strikes; anyway.
    • Despite being a melee weapon, it is unclear whether you can use a Mount Special Attack (★ Attack) (such as Xerxis2) on the same activation you charge. (Infernals are Checking it)
  • Mount attacks will trigger "Melee attack" stuff like Battle Wizard.
  • You can purchase additional attacks with your Mount Weapon. (Infernal Ruling)

Impact Attacks - Movement

  • You cannot "stop" in an illegal position to carry out Impact Attacks. For instance, halfway over a linear obstacle, or a flying cavalry stopping while it 'overlaps' other models, or stopping halfway through an Incorporeal model.
    • The reason is, you need to obey the rule "this model can advance through [stuff] if they have enough movement to move completely past it".
    • Stopping during your movement doesn't satisfy that rule, whether that's the "stop" at the end of the model's normal movement or the "stop" for impact attacks.
  • If your charge target is included in your Impact Attacks, then you need to turn and face it and end your movement before starting the attacks (refer rulebook, last paragraph of 'Impact Attacks').
    • As such, things which trigger at "End of Movement" (such as Admonition) will occur before your Impact Attacks.
    • On the other hand, if your Impact Attacks don't include your charge target, then you're interupting your movement to resolve them, and thus stuff like Admonition won't trigger.

Impact Attacks - The attack(s)

  • You resolve stuff that occurs "after the attack is resolved" (such as Battle Wizard) before continuing with your charge movement.
  • If you have an ability that boosts your "first" melee attack (such as Stir the Blood), then only one attack will be boosted even though you're making multiple simultaneous attacks.

Impact Attacks - Other

  • You cannot use "any time" abilities while resolving Impact Attacks. Because Impact Attacks occur during movement; and you can only use 'any time' abilities before moving or after moving, but not during movement. (Infernal Confirmation)
    • Exception: If your Impact targets include your charge target, then your movement has ended (refer rulebook, last paragraph of 'Impact Attacks') and thus you're fine to use "any time" abilities.

Cavalry unit

  • If you have a unit of Cavalry, charge them and do impact attacks, remember you interrupt movement to do impacts, but you have to resolve all movements before doing any charge attacks. So for example it would go:
    • Cavalry model A charges enemy X, and contacts model M. Stop and make impact attacks against M. Then continue movement to X.
    • Cavalry model B charges enemy Y, and contacts model N. Stop and make impact attacks against N. Then continue movement to Y.
    • Cavalry model C charges enemy Z, and contacts model O. Stop and make impact attacks against O. Then continue movement to Z.
    • Resolve model A's charge attack vs X, B's vs Y, and C's vs Z. (This can be done in any order, as per normal)

Other interactions

  • Countercharge & Cavalry ( Edit )
    • A model with Countercharge and Cavalry can make Impact Attacks during the countercharge. (Refer "Charges Outside of Activation" in the rulebook).
  • Warcaster/Warlock Cavalry ( Edit )
    • Warcasters/Warlocks can't cast spells or use their feat while resolving Impact Attacks. Because Impact Attacks occur during movement - you can use spells or feat before moving, or after moving, but not during movement.
      • Exception: If your Impact target(s) include your charge target, then your movement has ended (refer rulebook, last paragraph of 'Impact Attacks') and thus you're fine to use "any time" abilities before starting the Impact attacks.
  • Flight on a Cavalry model (Edit)
    • Although you can move over obstacles/models while charging, if you want to stop and make Impact Attacks while you fly "over" models you need to stop in a legal position. You can't make Impact Attacks while your flying horse is on top of obstacles, models, etc.

Rules Clarification : Bird's Eye      (Edit)

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Rules Clarification : Quick Work      (Edit)

  • If you're still engaged in melee when Quick Work triggers, you won't be able to make the ranged attack.
  • Quick Work specifies "Combat Action" so doesn't work with Impact Attacks or out-of-activation attacks

Rules Clarification : Reposition      (Edit)

  • Models out of formation cannot move via Reposition. Refer to the "Out of Formation" rules in the core rulebook.
  • You cannot trigger abilities that occur "at the end of activation" (such as Sprint) after resolving Reposition, because your activation has ended. Click here for a detailed explanation
  • You cannot trigger abilities that occur "at any time" (such as Go To Ground) during a Reposition. Because you can't trigger it while moving, and after moving your activation has ended.
    • This holds true even if it's a unit with multiple Reposition moves. (Infernal Ruling)

Rules Clarification : Veteran Leader      (Edit)

  • The bonus doesn't normally apply to the model giving out the buff, because it (normally) specifies "other models within ...".
  • Although if you have two models giving out the buff, then they can give it to each other. (Locked thread)


Rules Clarification : Deceleration      (Edit)

  • Deceleration works vs blast damage.
  • Deceleration works vs special effects on the gun/spell that cause "direct" damage. For instance, the Throw damage caused by the White Squall spell.
  • Deceleration doesn't work vs 'secondary' damage that is 'not considered to be an attack' (such as Electro Leap).
  • Deceleration doesn't work vs hazards that are put into play by spells/guns (such as the Stormwall's Covering Fire).

Rules Clarification : Easy Rider      (Edit)

  • Pathfinder (Edit) - Pathfinder doesn't apply to involuntary movement (i.e. when you're pushed or slammed).

Rules Clarification : Lock The Target      (Edit)

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Rules Clarification : Synergy      (Edit)

  • Synergy is not retroactive. Synergy must be either upkept or cast before anything will trigger the cumulative bonus. (Infernal Ruling)
  • You gain +1 bonus per model that hits. Not +1 per attack that hits.
  • The Synergy bonus affects other battlegroup models. The currently active model doesn't benefit from any bonuses that it earns.
  • It is possible to earn Synergy bonuses during the opponent's turn, if they're letting you get lots of free strikes.
  • If you have lots of out-of-activation attacks (such as the aforementioned free strikes), you're going to have a bookkeeping nightmare thanks to the "only get bonuses from other model's attacks" rule. Good luck!

Rules Clarification : Twister      (Edit)

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