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Caine's Hellslingers

Mercenary, & Cygnar Partisan, Warcaster Unit

Caine’s Hellslingers has developed a reputation as one of the toughest and deadliest outfits in western Immoren. Comprised of former Black 13th gun mages Lieutenant Darsey Ryan and Sergeant Samuel Watts as well as the renegade warcaster Allister Caine himself, this trio has gunned down scores of opponents. Their intelligence, expertise, and lethality make them a force to be reckoned with.

Basic Info[edit]


DEF 17
ARM 13
HP 15
WJP +20
See also How to Read the statblock


  • Spellstorm Pistol (x2) - 12" range, POW 12 guns.
    • Attack Type - Each time this weapon is used to make an attack, choose one of the following special rules:
      • Witch Mark - If this attack hits an enemy model during this model's activation, until the end of that activation this model can target and automatically hit that enemy model with spells, ignoring RNG and LOS.
      • Blast - This attack becomes AOE 3.
      • Black Penny - this weapon/attack ignores the "target in melee" DEF bonus.
    • Reload [1] - This model can spend focus to make up to 1 additional ranged attack(s) with this weapon during its Combat Action. It can make one additional attack for each focus spent.


  • Mercenary - will work as a Cygnar Partisan . Unlike other Merc warcasters, it doesn't need to be a 2+ caster game for him to do so.
  • Warcaster Unit - All warcasters come with a stack of standard special rules - most notably being awesome. Furthermore, this warcaster comes with some troopers that can be ordered around.
  • Partisan [Cygnar] - When included in a Cygnar army, this model/unit is a Cygnar model/unit instead of a Mercenary model/unit.
  • Gunfighter - This model can use its ranged weapons even while in melee, but when it does so it can only target models it's in melee with. It can even make ranged attacks after charging.
  • Officer - This model is the unit commander even if the unit has a Leader model.

Feat : Reap the Whirlwind[edit]

While in Caine's CTRL range, models in his battlegroup gain a +1 cumulative bonus on ranged attack and ranged damage rolls for each other model in his battlegroup that hit an enemy model with a ranged attack this turn while in Caine's control range. This cumulative bonus cannot exceed +3. Reap the Whirlwind lasts for one turn.


  • Calamity - Cost 3, 10" range, Offensive Upkeep
Target model/unit suffers -2 DEF & ARM.
Place models in Caine's unit anywhere completely within 2" of their current locations. Models are not affected while out of formation. Flicker can be cast only once per activation.
The caster can spend up to 3 focus on this spell. Target warjack in the caster's battlegroup immediately advances up to 1" for each focus point spent. A warjack can only be targeted by this spell once per activation.
Place a 5" AOE completely within caster's control range. Models in the caster's battlegroup ignore forests and clouds when drawing LOS, and ignore stealth when attacking models within the AOE.


DEF 14
ARM 11
HP 5


  • Magelock Rifle - 14" range, POW 10 gun
    • Attack Type - As above
      • Black Penny - As above
      • Brutal Damage - On a direct hit, gain an additional die on this weapon's damage rolls against the target directly hit.
      • Grievous Wounds - A model hit by this weapon loses tough and cannot have damage removed from it for one round.


  • Gunfighter - As above


DEF 14
ARM 11
HP 5


  • Magelock Pistol (x2) - 10" range, POW 10 guns
    • Attack Type - As above
      • Black Penny - As above
      • Brutal Damage - As above
      • Shadow Fire - Targets hit do not block LOS for one turn.


  • Gunfighter - As above

Thoughts on Caine's Hellslingers[edit]

Caine's Hellslingers in a nutshell[edit]

Caine's Hellslingers are a unit made of the Caine we all know and love, and 2 members of the Black 13th. Caine3 is a ranged battlegroup caster who wants as many warjack shots going down range each turn as possible. Caine3 is both a Mercenary and Cygnar caster. He is considered very strong in Cygnar and questionable in Mercenaries because Mercenaries have no cheap ranged warjacks to compare to Cygnar's Chargers. Cygnar Caine3 also benefits enormously from the Squire and Arlan Strangewayes. Merc Caine is nearly always seen with the Galleon, and sometimes Mariners. Caine's Hellslingers are built around a massive alpha strike with serious assassination potential, and will either kill the opposing caster, wipe out huge portions of the opposing army on the feat turn, or lose.

Feat thoughts[edit]

Caine3's feat is very similar to the spell Synergy but for ranged weapons, so all battlegroup models (including Ryan and Watts) get an attack and damage buff that starts at 0 and increases when they hit enemies at range, up to +3. As the feat is dependent on models hitting, not attacks hitting, the Hellslingers can get Caine up to +2/+2. Then assuming Caine also hits (as if he'll miss!), his warjacks will start their activations with a +3 bonus ready to go.

Spell thoughts[edit]

  • Calamity is almost a bread and butter spell for Caine, cast through his pistols and Witch Mark to mark a target for death. This spell makes everything better.
  • Flicker is normally used to keep Caine safe(ish) at the end of the turn by moving him (and his two accomplices) behind a solid obstacle, but can also be used to extend the assassination threat to 21 inches.
  • Locomotion is poor value most of the time - and really effective at the right moment. It does allow you to have a jack stand still and aim that would otherwise need to walk to be in range. You can also use it to pull your ranged jacks just out of threat range, once they shot (though you might have some order-of-activation troubles on feat turn)
  • Mage Sight lets you shoot things you otherwise couldn't. When you need it, it's really useful.

Typical Army & Strategy[edit]


Caine's army support is very poor. This is because his feat is very strong. His army should be built to maximize the effectiveness of his feat turn because if that doesn't inflict massive damage or kill the opposing caster, he's in rough shape.

If an enemy warcaster wanders within 21" of Caine, they are in your kill zone, but he is going to need his focus badly. The best warjack for him to use is probably the Charger. His most dangerous lists are Heavy-Metal with all the Chargers you can fit, though the Hurricane is also popular. Caine and his unit start the Synergy chain and he will cast Mage Sight, Flicker, Calamity or allocate depending on what is needed to maximize the feat. His battlegroup should then inflict maximum damage on the opposing army. The feat turn generally results in a massive attrition swing for Caine, a dead caster, or it leaves Caine very vulnerable and he gets killed by whatever is left.

Cygnar Army[edit]

Cygnar Warjacks

  • Cyclone - With Calamity and feat turn, a Cyclone can push up to 6 RAT 11 POW 17 shots! The Cyclone is the most cost effective warjack for Caine3 in terms of sheer firepower.
  • Charger - 1 focus - 2 full boosted POW 17 shots (feat + Calamity). More reliable than a Cyclone, and you can bring a ton of them.
  • Hunter - Armor Piercing Pow 11 shots (feat + Calamity). A good thing to keep in mind is that Armor Piercing is calculated from the BASE stat. With full Synergy and aim you are unlikely to need a boost on attack letting you boost damage and making these very cost efficient.
  • Grenadier - With Trenchers, that's three AOE shots per turn from a light jack.
  • Sentinel - Generally there to catch a bullet for the Hellslingers.
  • Minuteman - That's two POW 17 shots. 19 with Calamity! Ouch!
  • Dynamo - Dynamo is an expensive heavy with one of the most frightening guns in the game. He is guaranteed to slag anything he gets a bead on. Dynamo is stuck with medicore defensive stats with a low RNG gun, so the hardest thing to do is to keep him safe.
  • Thunderhead - Thunderhead's Energy Pulse is considered a ranged attack, and so will fully benefit from the feat bonus. A very expensive warjack, but a great option if you absolutely have to kill everything that comes close to it. He does gobble focus when shooting, and Caine is almost always running on empty.

Hurricane - Between Caine's feat, a Firefly and Calamity, you have the equivalent of POW23 Storm Emitters.

Cygnar Units

  • Storm Lances - Storm Lances love a DEF and ARM debuff, making their guns RAT 7 POW 14s and all of the Electroleaps POW 12s. Add in Laddermore and a Firefly for it to get REALLY ridiculous.
  • Trencher Infantry - A great jack of all trades unit. Calamity can help their middling offensive potential actually threaten unbuffed heavies. Caine will be very vulnerable as he's casting his spells, and so he greatly appreciates the cloud templates that they bring. They can also help reload any Grenadiers you might be bringing!
  • Rangers - You're going to be doing a lot of shooting, and +2 RAT is always helpful, ensuring that basically everything will only miss on a double 1.

Cygnar Solos

  • Gun Mage Captain Adept - Flare can help keep Caine from having to spend to cast mage sight, and more shadow fire means you can strike at the squishy stuff hiding in the back.
  • Journeyman Warcaster - Caine and Co. are still super squishy, and Arcane Shield helps bump their arm up to "no longer fearing blast damage"
    • Watch out, Junior's jack doesn't benefit from the feat
  • Captain Arlan Strangewayes - Caine will probably have a lot of jacks running around, so extra focus is always helpful.
  • Squire - Caine is focus strapped
  • Ragman - What's better than a 5 point arm swing? A 7 point arm swing! If you can line it up right, it means that Chargers can hit at an effective POW 19 (+3 POW for feat, -2 Arm for Calamity, -2 Arm for Death Field) The Ragman does require something to be in melee with the target for Death Field to work, so the warjacks will be taking a -4 to hit, bringing their effective RAT bonus to a +1 (+3 Feat, +2 Calamity, -4 shooting into melee).

Mercenary Army[edit]

Mercenary Warjacks

  • Galleon - The Galleon is the best merc Caine can do. If you roll 2 shots on his feat turn, that's too bad. Your best bet is to bring Dougal for Double Powder Ration, hope you roll high for everything and catch the opposing caster within 20". Incidentally, Bart's Galleon puts out Caine3 feat levels of damage every turn and is ARM 22 to boot.
  • Rocinante - 18 points for 1 shot. 2 Chargers are 18 points for four. You get the picture.
  • Mariner - It's 4 points cheaper than Rocinante and shoots a bit further. Still not what Caine's going for.
  • Mule - The Mule is for crit fishing, not shooting a POW 18 at something 13" away.
  • Rover - The 15 point Rover doesn't fit in with the idea of maximizing the feat turn. If future releases enable a way to play Caine3 that isn't all about a crazy hard alpha strike this could be his heavy of choice.

Mercenary Units

  • Caine3 does nothing to help units beyond Calamity, which helps just about all the Merc units equally. If he's taken in Llaelese Resistance, you will certainly want the Choir of Menoth to further increase the damage output of his ranged jacks or keep them safe from incoming fire. The other pick should be something self-sufficient, speedy and hard-hitting like Exemplar Vengers.

In Irregulars, Kayazy Eliminators are excellent for getting around and keeping him in scenario if needed.

Mercenary Solos

  • Orin Midwinter - He keeps Caine from getting assassinated by spells.
  • Gorman - He can put a cloud in front of Caine so he doesn't get killed. He also provides extra utility with his bombs.
  • Taryn - Shadow Fire deals with intervening models if you didn't bring Ace.
  • Eiryss1 - Disruptor bolt is a great control tool and helps with assassinations.
  • Reinholdt, Gobber Speculator - You have two great spellstorm pistols and you really want to shoot them as much as possible

Drawbacks, Downsides, & Bad Match-Ups[edit]

  • Ryan and Watts have a much lower DEF than Caine. If your opponent can target them with a unit-wide debuff spell (such as Freezing Grip), Caine can end up being vulnerable.
  • Caine is short of defensive tech and doesn't have a great range. Unlike his first and second incarnations, he lacks spells to teleport far away after shooting, lacks Caine2's true sight and Heightened Reflexes, and cannot increase his DEF. This means he dies. A lot. He either wins big or he dies.
  • He blows all his focus quite often.

Tricks & Tips[edit]

  • The strongest Caine3 armies usually have a bunch of Chargers and often a Hurricane. They are always in the Heavy Metal theme list for a free Arlan and Squire to get two extra focus. If the opposing caster starts the turn in range of enough of your guns, they're probably dead as line of sight is only an issue if a building is in the way.



Warjacks he can take[edit]

When Caine3 is fielded in a Cygnar force, he can only take Cygnar jacks. When he is fielded in a Mercenary force, he can only take the following Mercenary jacks:

Mercenary Warjacks (Edit)
Light Buccaneer - Renegade (Magnus only) - Talon - Vanguard
Heavy Freebooter - Mangler - Mariner - Mule - Nomad - Rover - Toro
Gallant - Rocinante
Colossal Galleon

Theme Forces[edit]


Cygnar's Themes for any-and-all casters (Edit)

Other Faction models[edit]

Warcasters Jakes2 - Darius - Kraye - Sloan - Haley1 - Haley2 - Haley3 - Nemo1 - Nemo2 - Nemo3 - Stryker1 - Stryker2 - Stryker3 - Sturgis1 - Constance - Caine1 - Caine2 - Caine3 - Maddox - Siege1 - Siege2
Warcaster attachments Squire (Cygnar) - Madelyn Corbeau (Merc) - Reinholdt (Merc) - Wyshnalyrr (Merc)
Other Warjack Controllers BGC Journeyman - Jakes1 - T. Warcaster Lieutenant
Marshals Runewood - Strangewayes - Anson Hitch - Stormblade Captain - T. Master Gunner - Gun Mage CA - Stormblade CA - Sword Knights CA
Light warjacks Charger - Firefly - Grenadier - Hunter - Lancer - Minuteman - Sentinel
Ace - Thorn
Heavy warjacks Avenger - Centurion - Cyclone - Defender - Hammersmith - Ironclad - Reliant - Stormclad
Brickhouse - Dynamo - Gallant - Ol' Rowdy - Thunderhead - Triumph
Colossal Stormwall - Hurricane
Units, Solos, & Battle Engines
Units Gun Mages - Mechaniks - Long Gunners - Precursor Knights - Rangers - Silver Line Stormguard - Storm Lances - Stormblades - Stormguard - Stormsmith Grenadiers - Storm Tower - Sword Knights - Tempest Blazers - T. Cannon Crew - T. Chain Gun Crew - T. Commandos - T. Express Team - T. Long Gunners - T. Infantry - T. Mechaniks
Black 13th Gun Mage Strike Team

Ranking Officer CA : Captain Jonas Murdoch

Solos Arcane Tempest Rifleman - Captain Adept - Journeyman Warcaster - Squire - Stormblade Captain - Stormcallers - T. Buster - T. Master Gunner - T. Patrol Dog - T. Warcaster Lieutenant
Runewood - Strangewayes - Maxwell Finn - Anson Hitch - Harlan Versh - Jakes1 - Bastian Falk - Gwen Keller - Laddermore - Harrison Gibbs - Viktor Pendrake
Battle Engines & Structures Storm Strider - Trencher Blockhouse
Theme Forces
Gravediggers - Heavy Metal - Sons of the Tempest - Storm Division
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Mercenary Battlegroups
Warcasters Ashlynn - Bartolo - Damiano - MacBain - Durgen - Fiona - Ossrum - Gorten
Requires a 2+ caster game
Other Controllers Mini-casters Gastone Crosse - Rorsh & Brine - Brun Cragback & Lug
Marshals Colbie Sterling - Dirty Meg - Raluk Moorclaw - Rutger Shaw - Thor Steinhammer
Warjacks & Warbeasts The mercenary battlegroup members you can include in a Cygnar army depends entirely on which mercenary is commanding them. There are too many permutations to list here, please refer to one of the model entries above for full details of what it can take.
Units, Solos, & Battle Engines
Units High Shields - Horgenhold Artillery - Forge Guard - Ogrun Assault Corps - Press Gangers - Sea Dog Deck Gun - Sea Dog Pirates - Steelhead Halberdiers - Steelhead Cavalry - Steelhead Riflemen - Tactical Arcanist Corps - Thorn Gun Mages
Alexia1 - Sam & the Devil Dogs - Nyss Hunters - Blythe & Bull - Boomhowlers - Herne & Jonne - Aiyana & Holt - Lynus & Edrea
Solos Gobber Tinker - Ogrun Bokur
Alexia2 - Alten Ashley - Anastasia - Bradigan - Eilish Garrity - Grogspar - Brun Cragback & Lug - Colbie Sterling - Dirty Meg - Doc Killingsworth - Eiryss1 - Eiryss2 - Hawk - Gastone - Gorman - Hutchuk - Lanyssa - Rockbottom - Dougal - Ragman - Raluk - Rhupert - Rorsh & Brine - Savio - Sergeant Nicolas - Stannis - Taryn - Thor
Warcaster attachments Madelyn Corbeau - Reinholdt - Wyshnalyrr
Battle Engines Hammerfall Siege Crawler



Mercenary 'Jack Controllers (Edit)
Warcasters Ashlynn - Caine3 - Captain Bart - Captain Damiano - Gastone2 - Captain Shae - Macbain - Constance - Fiona - Magnus1 - Magnus2
BGC Gastone Crosse
Marshals Colbie Sterling - Dirty Meg - Raluk Moorclaw - Rutger Shaw - Sam & the Devil Dogs
Mercenary Warjacks (Edit)
Light Buccaneer - Renegade (Magnus only) - Talon - Vanguard
Heavy Freebooter - Mangler - Mariner - Mule - Nomad - Rover - Toro
Gallant - Rocinante
Colossal Galleon
Rhulic 'Jack Controllers (Edit)
Warcasters Durgen Madhammer - General Ossrum - Gorten Grundback
Cannot take Colossals
Thor Steinhammer
Rhulic Warjacks (Edit)
Light Blaster- Gunner
Heavy Avalancher - Basher - Driller - Rockram
Colossal Earthbreaker
Cephalyx Warcasters (Edit)
Warcasters Cognifex Cyphon - Exulon Thexus
Cephalyx Monstrosities (Edit)
Heavy Subduer - Warden - Wrecker
Units, Solos, & Battle Engines
Warcaster attachments Madelyn Corbeau - Reinholdt - Wyshnalyrr
Lesser Warlocks Rorsh & Brine (Farrow) - Wrong Eye & Snapjaw (Gatorman)
Units Cephalyx Mind Bender - Cephalyx Mind Slaver - Cephalyx Overlords - High Shields - Artillery Corps - Forge Guard - Idrian Skirmishers - Kayazy Assassins - Kayazy Eliminators - Ogrun Assault Corps - Precursor Knights - Press Gangers - Sea Dog Pirates - Deck Gun - Steelhead Halberdiers - Steelhead Heavy Cavalry - Steelhead Riflemen - Tactical Arcanist Corps - Thorn Gun Mages
Special CA: Cephalyx Dominator
Character Units Alexia1 - Sam & The Devil Dogs - Croe's Cutthroats - Nyss Hunters - Blythe & Bull - Boomhowlers - Herne & Jonne - Aiyana & Holt - Lynus & Edrea - Commodore Cannon - Devil's Shadow Mutineers
Solos Cephalyx Agitator - Gobber Tinker - Ogrun Bokur - Swamp Gobber River Raider
Character Solos Alexia2 - Alten Ashley - Anastasia Di Bray - Bloody Bradigan - Bosun Grogspar - Brun & Lug - Colbie - Dahlia & Skarath - Dirty Meg - Doc Killingsworth - Eilish Garrity - Eiryss1 - Eiryss2 - Hawk - Gastone1 - Gorman - Gudrun - Harlan Versh - Hutchuk - Kell Bailoch - Lanyssa - Rockbottom - Major Harrison Gibbs - Dougal - Orin - Ragman - Raluk - Rhupert - Rorsh & Brine - Rutger - Savio - Saxon - Sergeant Nick - Stannis - Taryn - Thor - Viktor - Wrong Eye & Snapjaw
Battle Engines Hammerfall Siege Crawler
Theme Forces (Edit)
Hammer Strike - The Irregulars - The Kingmaker's Army - Operating Theater - The Talion Charter - Llaelese Resistance

Rules Clarifications[edit]

Rules Clarification : Caine3

  • For his Feat, Reap the Whirlwind, refer to the Synergy clarifications - it's essentially the same rule and rule interactions.
  • You cannot include the Black 13th in his army, due to character restrictions with Watts and Ryan. (Locked thread)

Rules Clarification : Ace & Caine3    (Edit)

  • When Caine3 is taken in a Cygnar army, Ace can go in his battlegroup as per normal.
  • When Caine3 is taken in a non-Theme Mercenary army, Ace cannot go in his battlegroup because they're different factions.
  • When Caine3 is taken in a Theme Mercenary army, Ace can go in his battlegroup because of the special rules about Themes & Character jacks.
  • (Infernal Ruling for all of the above)

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Rules Clarification : Attack Type and/or Arcane Savant     (Edit)

  • If you forget to declare your Attack Type before rolling the attack, and you and your opponent can't agree on a fair fix, then the Judge's Policy is that the first listed Attack Type is the one that will be used.

Rules Clarification : Witch Mark - None yet. (Edit)

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Rules Clarification : Black Penny      (Edit)

  • You ignore the "Target in Melee" DEF bonus, but if you miss you still need to randomly reassign the shot as per normal.
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Rules Clarification : Reload      (Edit)

  • You can use Reload to make additional attacks after a Special Ranged Attack. (Infernal Ruling)
  • If you have (x2) of a weapon with Reload (such as Caine1), the special rule will only be written on the card once. But you can reload both weapons to the max limit. (Infernal Ruling)

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Rules Clarification : Warcaster Unit or Warlock Unit     (Edit)
This summary is specific to Warcaster/Warlock units. You may also want to check the Warcasters & Warlocks page for the 'regular' rules clarifications.

  • If you're giving an order, it must be done first, before casting any spells or using your feat.
  • All models in the unit count as part of the battlegroup. So, for instance, Butcher3's argus can be moved via his Energizer spell.
  • Only the warcaster/warlock model can dominate a Steam Roller scenario. They can do that regardless of where the grunts are.
  • The grunt models can contest Steam Roller scenarios, but not control them.
  • Warcaster units can have attachments. They can even attach units (such as the WSC). (Infernal Ruling)
  • Units Buying Attacks (Edit)
    • If you make attacks with model [A], then start making attacks with model [B], you cannot 'go back' and buy more attacks with [A]. Because:
    • A model can only buy additional attacks during its Combat Action.
    • A model in a unit must complete its Combat Action before the next model starts theirs (with some exceptions, like CMA).
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Rules Clarification : Partisan      (Edit)

  • This model is normally "friendly faction" to other mercenary models. However, when taken in the Partisan faction it is "friendly faction" to that faction and not to any other mercenaries that are in that force.
    • For instance, if you take Gallant in a Mercenary force he is "friendly faction" to, say, Reinholdt. But if you take them both in a Cygnar force then Gallant counts as a Cygnar model and is no longer "friendly faction" to Reinholdt.
  • Partisan Warcasters can be taken in faction theme forces. Refer to the main rulebook.
  • When taken in a Mercenary army, Partisan units may not take attachments from their "parent" army (eg Nyss Hunters can only take a Retribution Soulless Escort when they're fielded in a Retribution army). (Locked thread)
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Rules Clarification:  : Gunfighter      (Edit)
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  • You cannot Aim if you start your activation in melee. (Infernal Confirmation)
  • A free strike with a ranged weapon still gets the +2 to hit and boosted damage (I'm pretty sure - I'd like to double check it though).


  • 1. Outside of melee
    • If the Gunfighter isn't in melee, and didn't charge this turn, then it shoots just the same as a normal model.
  • 2. In melee, but didn't charge
    • If it didn't charge, it can target anyone it's "in melee" with.
    • This can be any model in the Gunfighter's melee range, plus any models that have the Gunfighter in their melee range.
    • If a Gunfighter kills all the enemies it is in melee with, and still has the ability to make more ranged attacks, then those attacks just follow the normal Ranged Attack rules. (Infernal Ruling)
  • 3. Charged into melee
    • If it did charge, its initial attacks can only target models that are in the Gunfighter's melee range.
    • If all models in the Gunfighter's melee range are killed before it makes its initial attacks, it loses any unspent initial attacks. (Infernal Ruling)
    • However if it can purchase additional attacks (via Reload for instance) and/or get free attacks (via Black Spot for instance), then those non-initial attacks can target anyone it's "in melee" with, as per #2 above.
  • 4. Other targeting notes
    • Remember, you can never be "in melee" with a friendly model, so a Gunfighter can pretty much never choose to target a friend while it's in melee (although it may hit one accidentally, see "Missing" below).
    • If the gunfighter is unengaged, it can still shoot a friendly model, which would just be a normal ranged attack.

Attack Roll

  • You use the Gunfighter's RAT for the attack roll.
  • Gunfighters do not ignore the Cover/Concealment bonus. (Infernal Ruling)
  • How the +4 DEF bonus for "being in melee" works with Gunfighters is:
    • they always ignore it vs enemies, because the "point of origin of the attack is in melee with the target".
    • they never ignore it vs friendlies, because you cannot be in melee with a friendly target.
  • Obviously, if the Gunfighter isn't actually in melee with the enemy target, then the Gunfighter rules don't apply. So they do get the +4 DEF bonus as if it were a normal ranged attack (because it is).

Missing the Attack Roll

  • If you miss the attack roll then you need to randomly reassign the shot just like you would with a normal ranged attack shooting someone in melee. Because nothing in the Gunfighter rules say you ignore this part of the "Targeting a Model in Melee" (TMM) rules.
    • Do not include the Gunfighter model itself in potential 'randomees' (because you can't target yourself, as per the 4th paragraph of TMM) (Locked thread)
    • but do include models the Gunfighter is in melee with, and any friendly models that are in melee with them (as per the TMM rules).

Incorporeal Gunfighters

  • Note that enemy models without magic weapons can't hurt you in melee, but they can engage you.
  • Once they do that you're in melee and your target selection is limited to just models in melee (as explained above).

Gunfighter + an AOE weapon

  • If you miss then the AOE will deviate as per the normal AOE rules. Not very far, though, considering the max distance you'll be apart is 2".
  • If you use an AOE weapon to make a free strike, you get the +2 to hit and you get boosted damage against everything under the blast template.

Gunfighter + a spray weapon

  • Who you can target with the spray is limited as described above, but you get to put the whole spray template down and potentially hit models well outside the melee.
  • If you use a spray weapon to make a free strike, you get the +2 to hit and you get boosted damage against everything under the spray template.

Units of Gunfighters

  • If a unit of Gunfighters successfully charge, but someone else in their unit kills their charge target before they get a turn to attack, then they may redirect their attack.
  • Redirected attack:
    • If they're still engaged, their initial attack (s) must be vs someone in their melee range.
    • If they're still engaged, but no one is in their own melee range, they don't get any initial attacks.
    • If they're unengaged, they are now free to shoot anyone within the gun's normal range.

Other interactions

  • Gunfighter vs Point Blank (Edit)
    • If a model has both Gunfighter and Point Blank, then you should declare whether you're using it as a ranged attack or melee attack whenever you shoot the gun. Because that can limit what other initial/additional attacks you can make. (Infernal Ruling)
    • These two abilities are subtly different, but it's an important difference.
    • Gunfighter allows you to make ranged attacks while in melee.
    • Point blank allows you to make melee attacks with your ranged weapon.
      • Since you can't make both ranged and melee attacks in the same turn, a Gunfighter model has a choice of either initial melee attack(s) or initial ranged attack(s). (unless it has Virtuoso or something).
      • Whereas a Point Blank model chooses to make initial melee attacks, and then gets to make attacks with both weapons.
    • Furthermore, the types of bonuses, penalties, and special effects you (or your opponent) can trigger will change dramatically:
      • Any buffs/triggers on ranged attacks (such as Evasive, Shield Guard, Deadeye, etc) will affect Gunfighter attacks, but not Point Blank attacks.
      • Any buffs/triggers on melee attacks (such as Battle Lust, Riposte etc) will affect Point Blank attacks, but not Gunfighter attacks.
  • Gunfighter & Cavalry ( Edit )
    • A cavalry model that charges then makes a Gunfighter attack will not gain a boosted charge attack roll, because a ranged attack is not a charge attack. (Infernal Ruling)
    • You also won't gain a boosted charge damage roll, as per normal for a Gunfighter.
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Rules Clarification : Officer      (Edit)

  • Even if they're not on the Officer's card, an Officer can give (and benefit from) any non-standard orders that are on the unit's card (such as Shield Wall). Refer main rulebook.
  • When the Officer dies, the Leader model becomes the new Unit Commander (you don't get to choose).
  • But if your unit doesn't include a Leader model, then you do get to choose any of the remaining models to be the new Unit Commander. You don't swap the model, but it may be worth putting a token down so you can tell that grunt apart.

Rules Clarification : Calamity - None yet. (Edit)
Rules Clarification : Flicker - None yet. (Edit)

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Rules Clarification : Locomotion      (Edit)

  • You can't cast this spell with 0 focus and advance 0" (change facing).
  • The advance will trigger free strikes, counter charges, etc.
  • Colossals cannot move via Locomotion.
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Rules Clarification : Mage Sight      (Edit)

  • Mage Sight's AOE allows LOS to models in the AOE, not to points on the ground. So it doesn't help with stuff like Siege trying to place his Ground Pounder attack. (Infernal Ruling)
  • If an intervening model also has Stealth, then you treat it as normal for LOS purposes. Because you determine LOS before declaring a target, thus Mage Sight's "ignore LOS" doesn't apply to intervening models, regardless of whether it is also in the AOE or not.

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Rules Clarification : Brutal Damage      (Edit)

  • Brutal Damage only applies to the model directly hit, so it never affects blast damage.
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Rules Clarification : Grievous Wounds      (Edit)

  • GW prevents "repairs" as well as "heals".
  • It does not stop a warlock transferring damage, or stop the wounded model from being able to 'heal' someone else.
  • Does not affect models with the Massive rule.
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Rules Clarification : Shadow Fire      (Edit)

  • Shadow Fire vs Roadblock (Edit)
    • If you use Shadow Fire vs a Roadblock model then the Roadblock will still grant cover to nearby models; even though you can "see right through it".
    • Because the rule for getting cover from an obstacle is simply: does a line pass between the attacker and target that goes over/through the obstacle? Is the target within 1" of the obstacle on that same line?
    • In other words, whether the obstacle actually blocks LOS or not isn't relevant.